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about our carbon fiber tubing or how we do business? Our F.A.Q.
should be able to cover just about any topic concerning carbonfibertubeshop.com.
If you don't find an answer here feel free to email us at sales@carbonfibertubeshop.com
Thank You,
The CarbonFiberTubeShop
Team
Section
I: Ordering and Shipping Policies
I don't have a Paypal account, can I still order using
your online ordering system?
Do you accept other forms of payment besides Paypal?
What is the expected delivery time for my order?
Can I upgrade the shipping on my tubes to faster delivery?
I live outside of the continental U.S. can I still buy from carbonfibertubeshop.com?
Do you sell to dealers for resale?
I want to order bulk tubing can I get better pricing?
How does your return policy work?
One of your tubes broke, can I get a replacement sent out at no
charge?
Section
II: About Carbon Fiber Tubing
Why buy from us instead of building your own tubing?
What is so great
about carbon fiber tubing?
What materials are used to build your tubes?
How much heat will these tubes withstand?
Can carbon fiber tubing be bent to shape like metal?
What are those funny lines on the tubes?
Some of your tubes don't look like the carbon fiber I've
seen, why is that?
Section
III: About Us
About Us
Will carbonfibertubeshop donate/sponsor tubing for non-profit
organizations?
How long have you been in business?
Where are these tubes made?
Section
IV: Application Information
Will your tubing work for my application?
How do these tubes withstand weather?
Legal Disclaimer
Section
V: Working with Carbon Fiber
What precautions should I take when cutting carbon fiber
myself?
Section
VI: Other Products
Do you sell any other products? Do you sell carbon fiber
plates?
Do you sell curved tubing?
Do you have a catalog you can send me?
Do you sell tubing in different colors?
Section
VII: Custom
I need some custom tubes built to my specifications, can
you build them for me?
Does carbonfibertubeshop cut or machine tubing?
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Section
I: Ordering and
Shipping Policies
I don't have
a Paypal account, can I still order using your online ordering
system?
Yes, you do not need to have a Paypal account to use
our shopping cart. We use Paypal for most of our payments but
all you really need to use our online ordering system is a credit
card.
Do you accept other forms of payment besides Paypal?
Yes, you can call us with any major credit card to order
at 801-471-4150. You also have the option of mailing us a check
or money order to order tubing CFTS. Orders paid for with money
order will ship when we receive the payment. Order paid for with
a personal check usually don't ship for 5-7 days after the check
clears our account. We also accept fax in orders, click on the
link below if you wish to fax your order.
What is the expected delivery time and shipping cost for my order?
All orders are shipped out within 1-2 business days and
all U.S. shipments are shipped out via Priority Mail or Federal Express. All orders
shipped internationally and shipments going to Alaska or Hawaii
may be shipped by the method chosen by the customer. Since we
are centrally located in Utah all orders take between 2-5 business
days from the ship date to arrive. Our shipping prices are shown
in the table below:
Order
Amount |
Shipment
cost |
$0.00
- $25.00 |
$0 |
$25.01
- $200.00 |
$27.00 |
$200.01
- $400.00 |
$32.00 |
$400.01
- $790.00 |
$37.00 |
$790.01
OR MORE |
$50.00 |
*Partial shipping refunds "may" be automatically given for some small and medium tube orders. Due to the length of some of our small tubes the shipping costs can be relatively high. We offer refunds when and if our shipping costs are out of line with what it costs us to get the tube to you. Our goal is to cover our shpping and handling costs while providing a speed and secure delivery to our customers.
Can I upgrade the shipping on my tubes for faster delivery?
Yes, please email us before ordering and we can let you
know the cost of upgrading and how quickly we can deliver your tube.
I live outside of the continental U.S. can I still buy from carbonfibertubeshop.com?
Yes, please email us with the tubes you need and your
shipping address and we will quote you a price and delivery time.
Do you sell to dealers for resale?
No
I want to order bulk tubing can I get better pricing?
Yes, we would be happy to quote you a price for large orders
(over 10 tubes). Email us today at sales@carbonfibertubeshop.com
What is your return policy?
Defective Tubes
Option 1: Replacement Tubes
If you find defective tubing in your order, please contact CFTS within 30 days of receiving your order (801-471-4150) for an RMA number. We will arrange to have your defective tubes picked up at our cost and ship out new tubes within 5 business days at our cost.
Option 2: Cancel Your Defective Order
If you find defective tubing in your order, please contact CFTS within 30 days of receiving your order (801-471-4150) for an RMA number. We will arrange to have your defective tubes picked up at our cost and send you a full refund including shipping and handling within 5 business days.
Damaged Tubes
Option 1: Replacement Tubes
To return tubing damaged during shipping please contact CFTS within 30 days of receiving your order (801-471-4150) for an RMA number. We request that you provide photos of the shipping box and damaged tubing so that we can ask our shipping company to cover the insured shipment. We will arrange to have your damaged tubes picked up at our cost. Then we will ship replacement tubes out to you at our cost within 5 business days of being notified about the issue.
Option 2: Cancel Your Damaged Tube Order
If you find damaged tubing in your order, please contact CFTS within 30 days of receiving your order (801-471-4150) for an RMA number. We request that you provide photos of the shipping box and damaged tubing so that we can ask our shipping company to cover the insured shipment. We will arrange to have your damaged tubes picked up at our cost and send you a full refund including shipping and handling within 5 business days.
Cancel Your Order - No Longer Need Tubes
If you wish to return your tubing for any reason, we have no problem accepting them back as long as they aren’t used (placed under load) or damaged in any way. If you’d like to return your tubing for a full refund minus shipping and handling charges you must contact CFTS at 801-471-4150 within 30 days of receiving your product so we can provide you with an RMA number.
All returns must have the RMA number written on the outside of the box or we cannot accept them. We don’t refund the shipping and handling charges unless you wish to cancel an order due to defective or damaged tubes. If you wish to cancel your order prior to shipping we will issue a full refund including shipping and handling.
One of my tubes broke during use, can I get a replacement sent out at no charge?
No, we do not offer guarantees on broken tubes if you
break them. There are many variables that affect how much load
a given tube will withstand.
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Section
II: About Carbon Fiber Tubing
Why buy from
us instead of building your own tubing?
While it is possible
to build tubes with the same quality as our tubing but it will
not be cheap. This involves a lot of specialized equipment and
materials. The main hurdle to building tubing like this at home
or in low numbers is experience. Our tubing line-up has nearly 20
years of experience behind it. This is the main reason we exist,
so that you don't have to buy all of the equipment and spend lots
of time working out the process. Our high performance tubing is
an easy way to get what you need and get it quickly.
What is so great
about carbon fiber tubing?
The main benefits of carbon fiber over typically used
metal tubing are its low density (weight) and high stiffness.
These are great reasons to utilize carbon fiber tubing but there
are some benefits as well. Carbon fiber tubing has a very low
CTE (coefficient of thermal expansion) which means when heated
or cooled the material does not grow or shrink much at all. The
CTE of carbon fiber is very near zero. This is great for optical
or precision movement applications. Another benefit to carbon
fiber is that it does not transfer heat as much as most metals.
One of the biggest benefits of using composite tubing in general
is the ability of the material to resist weather much better than
metals because it will not corrode. Carbon fiber tubing can be
tailored much more to a given application with regard to directional
stiffness and strength. With metals you can change alloys, diameter
and wall thickness to accommodate the application but with carbon
fiber you can specify the material stiffness, diameter, wall thickness
and layup. Changing the layup or winding schedule in filament
wound tubing can increase strength and stiffness only where needed
without having the added weight. For example if you want a tube
to become resistant to crush or as a pressure vessel you would
wind or wrap the filaments around the diameter of the tube to
hold the pressure in but you may not place any fibers running
down the length of the tube if there will be no bending force.
This can be changed to accommodate mostly bending loads as with
our tubing as well. Carbon fiber is a super material!
What materials are used to build your tubes?
Our tubes are made from standard modulus (17 MSI) uni-directional
carbon fiber prepreg. We use a thermoset epoxy to complete the
matrix. All of our material is stored at precise (low) temperatures
to maintain its properties. We use prepreg instead of dry fabric
because the stiffness to weight ratio is relatively high. Wet
layups aren't the best way to go when you're going for ultimate
performance.
How much heat will these tubes withstand?
Carbon fibers by themselves
can withstand very high temperatures but when used in an epoxy
resin matrix the laminate is limited in its ability to withstand
heat. The mechanical properties of all materials begin to change
when exposed to heat or cold. Sometimes this change is severe
and sometimes the change is barely noticeable. The material we
use to fabricate our tubing is designed to be used at temperatures
less than 215F. This does not mean the tube will fail at temperatures
greater than 215F. It does however mean that the tubing will begin
to lose strength and stiffness beyond this temperature. You may
not see any visual change in the material until you reach 350-400
degrees Fahrenheit. At that temperature the tubing will begin
to break down and may turn ashen in color. As an aside there are
specialized resins that can be used at elevated temperatures.
Even with specialized resins 400F is pushing the limit. You may
be aware of carbon fiber clutch or brake disks being used in race
cars which would see temperatures well beyond 400F. In this case
a carbon fiber/resin laminate is created and then undergoes a
coating/curing process in which the part is super-heated to burn
out the resin. Once the resin is burned out it is replaced with
a liquid silicon based compound and cured again to become a silicon
carbide laminate.
Can carbon fiber tubing be bent to shape like metal?
No Way! Our carbon fiber tubing is built using a thermoset
epoxy resin. This means that once cured the epoxy never returns
to a liquid state. If you tried to bend our tubing it would break
with enough applied force but it will not bend. Carbon fiber/epoxy
composite is very stiff! There are resins out there under the
classification of thermoplastics that can be heated and formed
over and over but we do not use thermoplastic resins ever.
What are those funny lines on the tubes?
Those are cello lines that leave a very small imprint
in the top layer of resin. These lines are there because of the
manufacturing process these tubes go through. Lines are evidence
of the extreme pressures these tubes are cured under. Lines are
good! These lines can be sanded smooth by removing a few thousandths
of an inch from the outer diameter. After sanding the tubes may
be clear coated to return the shine.
Some of your tubes don't look like the carbon fiber I've
seen, why is that?
If you are used to seeing carbon fiber as a woven fabric
with a pattern these tubes may look a little foreign to you but
trust us, uni-directional gives a much better strength to weight
ratio when compared to woven fabrics. Uni-directional fibers are
laid up in a single direction but layers can be rotated to give
strength in any direction without the added weight and weakness
of a woven fabric. Fabric is used in molded parts for many reasons
not the least of which it is easier to form into a complex mold.
With tubes we don't need to use it. All of our large tubes do
have an outer layer of cosmetic fabric specifically to achieve
that pattern look but underneath that top layer they are all uni.
Uni-directional carbon is often used by the aerospace industry
due to its performance.
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Section
III: About Us
About Us
CarbonFiberTubeShop.com was founded by Adam Weeks (Ultra
Carbon Fiber). Ultra Carbon Fiber was founded in February of 2004
to provide the general public with unique and useful composite
products. Adam is still involved in the day to day management of Carbon Fiber Tube Shop along with long time business partner and friend Jeremy Smith but CFTS now operates as a seperate entity from Ultra Carbon Fiber. We are devoted to test engineers, hobbyists, home builders, and designers.
CFTS hopes to satisfy the demand that exists for carbon fiber tubing
products. We strive to offer something the other companies do not offer,
a complete buying experience. What we mean by that is we don't
just sell you tubes and take your money, we want to know what
you are building and we care about your success. We show this
by asking about your application and offering our ideas on how
our products can help. Another way we show this is by showing
you how to work with our tubing to make your project a success
(see our cut and bond page). We want to be helpful to you and
assist you in making your project a success. Contact us today:
Carbon Fiber Tube Shop
West Jordan, UT 84081
Phone: 801-471-4150
Fax: 801-912-0724
Email: sales@carbonfibertubeshop.com
Will carbonfibertubeshop
donate/sponsor tubing for non-profit organizations?
No way, we're cheap! Kidding of course, we offer a 10%
discount for recognized educational organizations. In the beginning
we had many requests for full sponsorships in various projects
ranging from FSAE to aero programs so instead of helping a few
schools per year with a full sponsorship we help dozens per year
by a small amount.
How long have you been in business?
Ultra Carbon Fiber has
been in business since February of 2004.
Where are these tubes made?
All of these tubes are
made right here in the U.S.A.
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Section
IV: Application Information
Will your tubing
work for my application?
I wish we could answer this question for you. We can
point you in the right direction but we admit we don't know your
application as well as you do. We can offer advice but sometimes
you just need to test it and see. Here are a few things to keep
in mind when you're deciding what material to go with. Carbon
fiber tubing will be:
Less than half the weight of aluminum
tubing and at least twice as stiff
Much lighter and stiffer than steel but
not as strong
Lighter and stiffer and stronger than Titanium
Lighter and stiffer and stronger than fiberglass
How do these tubes withstand weather?
One of the benefits
of using carbon fiber tubing is that it will withstand weather
better than most other materials. Moisture and temperature does
not faze carbon composite tubing. Weathering does not phase it
but ultra violet radiation will degrade the epoxy and weaken the
structure if it is not coated properly. To fully protect the tubing
it is advisable to paint any portion of the tubing to be exposed
to UV rays for long periods of time. Even when left outside in
a very high index UV area of the country you would not notice
any significant changes for many months. As the UV light degrades
the epoxy the tube may become slightly more golden in color and
may look faded. We have tested the effects of sunlight to a great
extent so we know what we're talking about. If you want to maintain
the look of the carbon fiber just use a clear coat paint with
UV inhibitors. We do not paint single tubes but any qualified
paint shop could handle the task. There are also companies that
manufacture a clear spray on protectant to inhibit UV radiation,
the only downside to these coatings is they need to be applied
every 4-8 weeks depending on exposure. As of 2024 CFTS is a
stocking dealer of 303® Aerospace Protectant which is the best UV
protectant spray on the market. 303® Aerospace Protectant. Click
here to order a bottle.
Legal Disclaimer
No website is complete
without the legal disclaimer so here we go. carbonfibertubeshop.com
(Ultra Carbon Fiber) makes no implied guarantees as to the fitness
of its tubes nor do we guarantee they will work for your application.
Since there are so many different possible applications and loading
scenarios we cannot possibly sell a tube that will work for all
situations. The customer will be responsible for any and all calculations
of material fitness. In some applications life and limb may depend
on these calculations and a given safety factor. We HIGHLY recommend
you check with a qualified engineer before subjecting anyone to
a potentially dangerous situation. Testing of material fitness
is the sole responsibility of the custom. The material properties
for a given material are estimates only. All bonding procedures
listed on this site are for demonstration purposes only, therefore
the customer must be responsible to make sure correct steps are
taken to create a reliable bond. We (UCF) will not be responsible
for any injury incurred through the use of power tools while working
with our tubing. Always wear eye and airway protection when cutting
our tubing. Follow all instructions that came with your tools
before using them. Any damage to property or human life through
the use of our tubing is the sole responsibility of the customer.
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Section
V: Working with Carbon Fiber
What precautions
should I take when cutting carbon fiber myself?
Cutting carbon fiber
safely requires the same protection you would expect to use when
cutting anything fibrous. First of all you need to protect your
lungs from the tiny fibers that may be disbursed into the air
you must wear a painters dust mask over your nose and mouth. If
you are doing a lot of cutting all masks should be stored somewhere
other than the cutting area when not in use. This ensures that
the inside of the mask is kept free of falling particles. When
you see the outside of the mask start to become discolored it
is a good idea to switch to a new mask. The next safety device
you will need is a pair of safety glasses. The type that fully
covers the front and sides would be the best option. Safety glasses
will prevent any flying debris from damaging your eyes. Goggle
type safety glasses will keep the finer particles (dust) away
from your eyes as well. Another area you want to protect is your
skin. Carbon fiber/epoxy composite is not harmful to the human
body but the dust particles are very small and stiff and can irritate
your skin just like fiberglass. This is not something to be overly
concerned about but the risk of irritation is there. You can take
measures such as latex gloves and/or cutting sleeves to minimize
the risk. Carbon fiber is a relatively safe material to work with
when some common sense is applied. You can see photos of these
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Section
VI: Other Products
Bonded tube assemblies
We build carbon fiber tube assemblies that slip together
to create one long tube by way of internal or external tube ferrules.
Typically one side of the ferrule is bonded while the other side
of the ferrule is a slip fit connection. Many customers use these
assemblies as camera booms to take amazing overhead shots. Our custom
tube assemblies will save you thousands of dollars over buying a
pre-built camera boom system. See examples of our work here.
Do you sell carbon fiber plates
Yes we do. We will be adding
a page to the site shortly, until then please email us for a quote
at sales@carbonfibertubeshop.com
If you are looking for custom plates we can handle that
as well including custom water jet cutting. One of our recent
customers is defense contractor, General Dynamics.
Do you sell curved tubing?
No, not at this time.
Do you have a catalog you can send me?
No, all of our products
are shown here on our website. As we expand our product line we
may produce a catalog.
Do you sell tubing in different colors?
No, graphite is always
black. If you have seen colored carbon fiber somewhere it is either
Kevlar, coated fiberglass, or a carbon Kevlar/carbon-glass mix.
We do not feel the demand exists to justify the added cost of purchasing
custom runs of prepreg fiber from our material supplier. Dry fiber
is much easier and cheaper to source in colors but prepreg is a
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Section
VII: Custom
I need some
custom tubes built to my specifications, can you quote them for
me?
Yes, please fill out our custom quote form here:
Where we differ from
other shops is that we do not have a minimum quantity or set amount
you need to purchase for custom orders. Need 1 tube or 100 and
we can handle it! Please note that if your application requires
advanced engineering consulting we have several engineers that
would be happy to assist you. However, engineering support is
not a free service and will be charged hourly. We pledge to do
our best to provide you with general technical information about
our products in a timely manner.
Does carbonfibertubeshop cut or machine tubing?
We
do not machine tubing but we will cut your tubing for $5 for the
first cut and $1.50 for every cut after that, up to 10 cuts. Beyond
10 cuts please email us for a custom quote. Contact us before
ordering so that we can send you a Paypal invoice for the correct
amount including cuts.
Does carbonfibertubeshop offer tube bonding?
Yes,
we offer tube bonding services at a rate of $45 for the first
bond and $10 for every bond after that. Volume bonding quoted
on a custom basis. Please contact us before ordering so that we
can discuss your requirements.
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NEED
A SAMPLE?
We
listened to what our customers wanted and this is our response.
In our sample pack you will get four sections of carbon tubing
between sized from .500" ID and 1.00" ID and at least
three inches long. Each section has a different outlook so that
you can make an informed decision with regard to the visual appearance
of our tubes before buying a full length tube. The 4 outlooks
are uni-cello, uni-sanded, fabric cello, and fabric sanded. No
guarantees are made with regard to sizing other than each tube
will be sized within a range of .500" ID and 1.00" ID.
If you email us before you order we may be able to make sizing
substitutions depending on our current stock of remnants. We do
not cut down full length tubes to provide samples but we make
every effort to accommodate our customers. Please note we DO NOT
offer free samples of our tubing due to the high cost of the materials
involved and the number of requests we receive for samples. When it comes
to most projects $18 ($28 for international orders) is a small price to pay
to make the right decision.
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